Comments on: 9 trends in CM leadership – part 9 http://www.ryanfrank.com/2009/11/9-trends-in-cm-leadership-part-9/ Children's Pastor/Creator of KidzMatter/Publisher of K! Magazine Sun, 25 Jul 2010 02:45:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: The Children’s Ministry Blog Patrol (November 2009) « Dad in the Middle http://www.ryanfrank.com/2009/11/9-trends-in-cm-leadership-part-9/comment-page-1/#comment-270 The Children’s Ministry Blog Patrol (November 2009) « Dad in the Middle Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:28:00 +0000 http://www.ryanfrank.com/?p=645#comment-270 [...] Trend #9: A growing percentage of parents are more committed to the extracurriculars than the progra... [...] [...] Trend #9: A growing percentage of parents are more committed to the extracurriculars than the progra… [...]

]]> By: Terry Rosendahl http://www.ryanfrank.com/2009/11/9-trends-in-cm-leadership-part-9/comment-page-1/#comment-177 Terry Rosendahl Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:17:40 +0000 http://www.ryanfrank.com/?p=645#comment-177 I do believe that there has to be a division between Church and worldly things. Like sports. However, where do we cross that line and let the sports take first compared to God? Nobody can answer that except the person it is addresed to. Because as for myself and my family, I love the fellowship with my church, but I have to travel so far to get there, so I we are trying to find a nother church that fits us just like the our home church (because we moved). In order to go home we have to travel round trip about 100 miles. I know what people may say: well if you love the church so much then stay. My answer is this: "We don't have the gas every week to go." That is why we are trying to find a church with the same feel as our "HOME". I am homesick and want the same feeling. We checked out this one church and they did not want young familes in the church "because they will cause too much trouble." I ran away from that church. We went to this other church and we enjoyed it very much, not too big but then again not too small, even the pastors family attends. They also have a bus ministry, as well as the youth programs. YAY. I am excited because it does meet all of my expectations. Also they are interested in my going to school, the pastor is willing to help me with some of the problems I face in my work as well as take time to help me review my school work. But the question should not be about putting sports before God. The question should have been when your family is out in the world, Is the world in you, or do you show by your reactions that you are serving God, because if you are serving God by being in the world that is fine. The moment when the world starts to interfere btween you & god then you need to step back and ease off of the worldly duties and come back to God. I do believe that there has to be a division between Church and worldly things. Like sports. However, where do we cross that line and let the sports take first compared to God?

Nobody can answer that except the person it is addresed to.

Because as for myself and my family, I love the fellowship with my church, but I have to travel so far to get there, so I we are trying to find a nother church that fits us just like the our home church (because we moved). In order to go home we have to travel round trip about 100 miles.

I know what people may say: well if you love the church so much then stay. My answer is this: “We don’t have the gas every week to go.” That is why we are trying to find a church with the same feel as our “HOME”. I am homesick and want the same feeling.

We checked out this one church and they did not want young familes in the church “because they will cause too much trouble.”

I ran away from that church.

We went to this other church and we enjoyed it very much, not too big but then again not too small, even the pastors family attends. They also have a bus ministry, as well as the youth programs. YAY.

I am excited because it does meet all of my expectations.

Also they are interested in my going to school, the pastor is willing to help me with some of the problems I face in my work as well as take time to help me review my school work.

But the question should not be about putting sports before God.

The question should have been when your family is out in the world, Is the world in you, or do you show by your reactions that you are serving God, because if you are serving God by being in the world that is fine. The moment when the world starts to interfere btween you & god then you need to step back and ease off of the worldly duties and come back to God.

]]> By: This Week in Children’s Ministry for 11/18/2009 http://www.ryanfrank.com/2009/11/9-trends-in-cm-leadership-part-9/comment-page-1/#comment-176 This Week in Children’s Ministry for 11/18/2009 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:10:59 +0000 http://www.ryanfrank.com/?p=645#comment-176 [...] Ryan Franks says a growing percentage of parents are more committed to non church programs. [...] [...] Ryan Franks says a growing percentage of parents are more committed to non church programs. [...]

]]> By: jonathan http://www.ryanfrank.com/2009/11/9-trends-in-cm-leadership-part-9/comment-page-1/#comment-174 jonathan Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:24:43 +0000 http://www.ryanfrank.com/?p=645#comment-174 I have learned to like it when a committed member of my church decides to go to a baseball game over a church event. I know they'll be back, and after spending time together as a family; they'll be better when they return. I'm sure I bring my own baggage as a kid that was forced to always do the "church" thing when it interfered with a sports activity. If we're not careful, we can end up making our church activities legalistic. I grew up resenting church because it took me away from everything I loved as a kid (movies, baseball, soccer, birthday parties, etc...) Luckily, I've come around since then. :) And I know you're not talking about the extreme side, just saying I agree and disagree with your opinion all at the same time. That's possible, right? I have learned to like it when a committed member of my church decides to go to a baseball game over a church event. I know they’ll be back, and after spending time together as a family; they’ll be better when they return.

I’m sure I bring my own baggage as a kid that was forced to always do the “church” thing when it interfered with a sports activity. If we’re not careful, we can end up making our church activities legalistic. I grew up resenting church because it took me away from everything I loved as a kid (movies, baseball, soccer, birthday parties, etc…) Luckily, I’ve come around since then. :)

And I know you’re not talking about the extreme side, just saying I agree and disagree with your opinion all at the same time. That’s possible, right?

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